Jo Lynn Haussmann

Dearest Zach, I totally agree with your blog other than the fact that Romney is has been back & forth on the abortion issue since 1994. I wonder if he’s vascillating due to his losing favor if he clearly states one way or another. His most recent is that it’s okay til a fetus is 20 wks. old. I will attach a copy of the website here where you can see his stance. It is pretty far down the page under the headings of ABORTION & LGBT. I voted for Romney due to I know he WILL protect our freedom and the constitution but I’m not so sure about his moral standing. I know he’s Mormon and I realize where they supposedly stand on these issues but I would almost have to think he was pretty solid on his stance in 1994 on both issues. It appears to me he changed his stance over the years due to peer pressure whether from his church, politics, or whatever. HOPEFULLY it was a revelation from God. Who can really know??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Mitt_Romney
This is the most recent info on his LGBT stance in 2011…In July 2011, Romney refused to sign a pledge opposing gay marriage, a pledge that was being circulated by “The Family Leader”, a conservative Christian group in Iowa.[391] On August 4, 2011, a month later, Romney signed the 2012 Presidential Pledge sponsored by the National Organization for Marriage.[392] He has expressed support for gay adoption.[393]
His most recent stance on abortion even though he now says he won’t fund Planned Parenthood. Campaigning in the presidential primaries in 2011, Romney declined to sign a pro-life pledge sponsored by the Susan B. Anthony List to support legislation ending all taxpayer funding of abortion, sign a law to “protect unborn children who are capable of feeling pain from abortion,” and nominate judges and appoint executive branch officials who are pro-life. Romney’s spokeswoman said he could not sign the pledge because it could have unforeseen deleterious consequences. Romney himself wrote that, “It is one thing to end federal funding for an organization like Planned Parenthood; it is entirely another to end all federal funding for thousands of hospitals across America…. That is precisely what the pledge would demand and require of a president who signed it.” [260] He promised that nonetheless he would support pro-life legislation should it come before him as president,[261] such as a Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, which would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy.[262][263]
You will find references at the end of the article that will support everything written.
I just found this since voting. Now, I am praying God won’t hold me responsible for voting for someone who would support LGBT & Abortion! Of course I do realize that enough citizens don’t know this truth and therefore did the same thing I did. It would have had to have come up months ago for there to be a majority to have NOT VOTED at all to boycott but then how disastrous could the results have been? I WISH we could have had MORE Christians rise up and support Santorum when we had the opportunity! Sad part is that the real urgency wasn’t even pushed from churches are religious groups until AFTER the primaries. I’m afraid we may be held accountable for that if nothing else. What are your thoughts?

zachneese

Jo Lynn, I understand. I’m not a Romney fan. He is not the answer, only a temporary bandaid. I think it is a symptom of our deep national moral apathy that a democracy refuses to put a good man on the ballot for president. Do we have no choices? Or are we simply unwilling to make right choices? One is scary, the other is willful rebellion. I am afraid that there are only two things that will stem the flood of immorality in America: destruction or awakening. I am praying for the latter because I love my country and its people.

Bob

So we’re supposed to pray that a Mormon wins? The book of Mormon was written to correct the problems in the Bible; how is that supporting Biblical beliefs?

zachneese

I hear what you are saying Bob, but we have two choices. Neither is good, I understand, and that is a reflection on our national failings, not just our political ones. I’m just telling you the biblical pattern, what we know God responds to, and how our current president has spit in God’s eye. If someone wants to elect Obama again, that’s their right and their business. But God has proven He can put up with a lot of faith issues from kings and presidents. The issues we’re talking about show such hatred towards that they cannot be ignored. He will not judge the whole nation for electing a religiously misguided waffler. But He will judge us for spilling missions of gallons of innocent blood and throwing sin in His face like offal. I’m saying we are in deep trouble right now.

zachneese

Bob, I’m not saying Romney is the best choice. We are in a serious dilemma. But, while Mormonism is not Christianity and it has some wildly different teachings, at least they base their morality (for the most part) on biblical principles. Now, does that mean that Romney shares those biblical principles? That remains to be seen. But I had three very close friends that were Mormons. While we did not share common beliefs, they were fine people who shared many of my biblical moral convictions. Obama has no moral convictions. The polls are his compass.

ned tyler

Great article, thank you for taking the time to share your concerns. You are not the only one that views the current situation in America the way you described it. Things that weigh heavy in my mind and heart are as follow.
I don’t endorse the homosexual life style and neither do most Christians, however is it the Government’s job to get in the way of people’s freedom to make those type of choices. As Christians we still make bad choices and that’s us, the people that know the truth. God still gives us the freedom to make bad choices, this includes a person choosing to commit an affair or to live a homosexual life style. The goverment we currently have is highly influenced and controlled by money and greed and I don’t expect it to respect and view my Christian views. The Bible teaches us that any other religion that is not Christ & Bible centered it is a false religion and Mormonism falls under that category because of that I would not vote for someone that is a Mormon, Mormonism does not hold to true Christian values.
In regards to Abortion and Human trafficking I believe that we as Christians must do all we can to protect all life. I also do not believe in the current president he also like many other candidates claims to be a Christian but again there is no fruit to prove this. I personally believe that both Republican and Democrat houses are corrupt and no longer really hold the peoples interests in mind but that of green only. The current attitude of the lesser of two evils also saddens me and the lack of proactivity on the majority of people is alarming to say the least. I am also surprised how the majority of Christians out there are not aware of things like the NDAA and the Patriot Act, both unconstitutional and are just as important in regards to freedom here in this nation, both the current Democratic president and the Republican thats running for that position. Anyways thank you again for sharing, its good to see people exercising their freedom of speech.

zachneese

We are in a pickle, Ned. Pray.

Mike rathke

Zach,
Thanks for posting this. This is very true and needs to be heard.

Amy Ford

I’m not so much into politics (although of course I voted) but everything you wrote I’ve been feeling the same exact thing … just this awareness of how depraved our country really is. Whether you are a believer of Christ or not, most people have something inside of them that tells us what is right or what is wrong …. and it’s almost like it is non existent. I have an outreach and mostly minister to the unchurched. Although I feel like deep down hearts are still good and what people go through is so much hurt and pain, but literally, it seems that most have no clue what is right or wrong. When you have no mentors, no fathers, no mothers, NO ONE to take you by the hand and show you what is right or wrong, and children are raising themselves, everything is SO completely jacked up in our society. I am praying for God’s mercy and for us as Christians can bond together even more and see the bigger picture of helping guide people to the feet of Jesus by pouring His love on to them … even people that are hard to love. We have to. If we care about our children’s generation and our children’s children, we have to act NOW. Thank you for this I love it.

zachneese

Amy, “If we care about our children’s generation and our children’s children, we have to act NOW.” That’s right. This is no time for apathy or sitting on our hands. Time to move while we can and pray while there is still light.

Gary Seay

Well said, sir. We as Christians have an obligation to pray for our land. It is a terrible thing when the watchmen fall asleep at the tower. God takes that whole “IF my people …” thing seriously.

tim stone

well said Zach. Our choices for candidates speak volumes about the spiritual climate of our country. You are right that Romney is not the answer to fix all that is wrong in America, but offers a step in the right direction. Ultimately the church holds the hope for this country. When the church decides to turn on the light, things change. When they do not, things turn dark in a hurry.

Janine Sieber

Wow, Zach!! Preach it!! Thank you for speaking the truth!

Chad

So according to this blog, Obama is comparable to an ancient king who sacrificed children and promoted ritualistic homosexual prostitution? That’s insane!!! Like many other Christians he has chosen to listen to empirical evidence. The science strongly suggests that homosexuality is biologically determined. There are measurable differences in brain structures and anatomy. Animal studies manipulating hormone levels and genetic expression have been able to induce homosexual behavior. In addition, homosexual behavior is observable across several different animal species. The more genetic material a person shares with a gay person the more likely they are to be gay. Cross-cultural studies indicate a consistent percentage of homosexual individuals across populations. If religion or culture had an impact then there would be more variability. A consistent percentage of homosexual individuals suggests homosexual orientation is the result of a statistically consistent variation in development.

Just because someone wants to allow gay people to get married doesn’t mean they’re depraved. The Bible also supports beating your slave to death, selling your daughter into sex-slavery, stoning rebellious kids, stoning adulterers or burning them alive. And there’s also that bit about God commanding Israel to kill every living thing during a few different battles. The arguments against homosexuality are the same that were used to argue against slavery and segregation. The case for slavery is strongly supported by the Bible. Should we bring back slavery? Should we start executing adulterers? Should we execute rude children?

It’s time for Christians to think more critically about how to apply the Bible and how to live peacefully in a multi-cultural society that seeks to protect the rights of all citizens. You are within your rights to preach against homosexuality. However, you should not be able to deny other people their basic rights. You have nothing to stand on except the ancient superstition and bigotry enshrined in your religious dogma. Allowing gay people to marry won’t change the percentage of gay people in the population.

Comparing Obama to an ancient King who sacrificed children and promoted ritualistic homosexual prostitution is ludicrous. I am amazed that conservatives are eager to embrace anti-gay politicians when that entails rejecting core Christian beliefs like charity, justice, compassion, etc. The OT prophets and NT writers spent far more time railing against the injustice of kings and landowners who treated the poor and their workers unfairly. Where is the concern for the poor and for justice among conservatives? Why vote for a man who will cut vital programs for poor and middle income people but give massive breaks to the wealthy and spend egregious amounts on the military? You’ll vote for disciples of Ayn Rand but not a disciple of Christ simply because he disagrees with you on gay rights and the role of religion in government? I wish conservatives loved America more than they hate Obama with an insatiable frenzy for slander and crazy conspiracy theories. If he were a white Republican with an Anglo-Saxon name conservatives would be singing his praises. But since they’ve labeled him an out-group member, their tribalistic mentality makes them insular and bellicose to the point of delusion.

zachneese

Thank you for your well-considered response, Chad.
It may surprise you to know that I agree with some of what you said here. I am repulsed by the Republican Party’s uncharitable, compassionless attitude towards the poor. Jesus has always been a defender of the poor and the widow, and a “father to the fatherless”. Churches across America are beginning to respond to the calling to take care of our communities and love and help people of all types and in all kinds of need. In fact, I think that it is primarily the Church’s responsibility to meet this need in society. Sadly, because of our failure, government has had to step in and undertake the daunting task of fulfilling the Church’s calling to the poor. I think that both the Church and the government have failed in this regard because neither has approached the problem from the perspective of biblical wisdom, love, and discipline.
In response to your biblical points, it is clear you have not studied the Scriptures and have never met Jesus. There is a difference in the Bible between what God commands (which always entails His character, love, and holiness), and what fallen humanity (even God’s “chosen people”) perpetrates or perpetuates. For example, God never endorses beating slaves, selling children as sex-slaves, or burning anybody. Jesus came to set slaves at liberty, not sell, enslave, or burn them. But God does make commands concerning morality and behavior. And, being God, He has the right to. And, being men, our opinion doesn’t really change that. Nor does our culture’s opinion.
As for your biological points, I have no argument against them and neither does the Word. The Bible teaches that everyone is born with a broken, sinful heart. Are people born gay? Maybe. People are born and raised with hearts that are bent towards all kinds of things: anger, addictions, selfishness, cruelty, greed, gluttony, adultery and gossip. God doesn’t expect anything else from us. That’s why the Bible teaches that God sent His Son, Jesus. Not to condemn or judge us, but to save us. To give us a spiritual “rebirth” with clean, guiltless hearts.
Historically, Christians haven’t done a very good job of representing that love. And I apologize if you felt that I was judging your behavior in any way or any of your beliefs. I wasn’t actually talking to you; I was talking to “us” – the Christians who hypocritically ignore God’s character and His words. You see, for a believer to vote in a way that is contrary to God’s command (which you think is insane) would be the ultimate hypocrisy.
As for the historical allusions, I will not apologize for them. Postmodernism has turned truth and history into pliable conveniences. But only a fool ignores the lessons of history. And for a person who believes in God to ignore His history is beyond foolish, it is irresponsible. The lessons in the Bible’s historical stories are the entire reason they were recorded in all of their unflattering glory – so that wise men would learn from them.
Your view of an evolving culture is no different that the Roman view, and we will reach the same social and political end they did by embracing those beliefs.
By the way, I love America much more that I hate Obama, because I do not hate him at all. You can’t hate someone when you are earnestly praying for God to bless him. I do think that he is misguided and arrogant. When a president begins thinking he can approve or disapprove the morality of a religious institution, he is meddling in decisions that are way over his pay grade.

Mike rathke

A funny thing happened to me a few weeks ago. I was watching the Andy Griffith show with my kids after church one afternoon. We were sitting there watching it and Barney Fife said something and we all started laughing. I put my head back and was chuckling and all of a sudden this deep sorrow came over me and I started crying. It was the weirdest thing I ever experienced. I sort of shook my head and was thinking, “what the heck was that all about?” And I felt like the Spirit was saying, “look how far your country has gone over the years.”
When I read Jeremiah, I see America all over it. I pray you’re right about God holding back His wrath…we really need to repent as a nation.

Luciana

God can change Obama’s heart. If he wins, the church needs to continue praying FOR him, with the same fervor she is praying and fussing right now AGAINST him. God changed the hearts of many kings and governants, because of the faith and exemplary life of the prophets around them. What I’m failing to see is a church that does that – instead of throwing darts at the governing authorities, Paul taught us to pray for them. If I’m not mistaken, the Roman governing authorities during his time were not very godly either in their choices. GOD can change any heart. He can reverse the course of history. Will the Church pray for their president, and surrender him to God, no matter who it turns out to be? I don’t know. The last four years have been pitiful in that regard.

zachneese

Luciana, I agree. We pray for him daily. Did you know that his name, Barak, is one of the Hebrew words for praise? It means “to bless the Lord by kneeling down and praising Him.” MY kids pray for him to do exactly that.

Jacob

Instead of relying on the record of kings thousands if years ago, perhaps we should rely on common sense and respecting our fellow man. This blog is just hyperbolic right wing drivel that has become all too common from the church. Stop demonizing the left because you disagree with a persons politics. Vote how you want to vote, but don’t hide behind done over dramatic argument that the works us at staje if we re-elect this ‘heathen’ (that is a Christian) and not the saint (that is a Muslim). Tired of the hypocrisy from everyone from Billy Graham down… And I voted Romney!

zachneese

Jacob, I actually think this has very little to do with politics. My concern is with politicians who try to legislate immorality. Common sense is not a tool that a misguided culture can rely on to make political decisions. We need a moral compass. And God invented it. Saying that you are a Christian then making political decisions that do not take God’s opinion into account is the ultimate “hypocrisy”. And I’m tired of it, too.
Only a fool or a megalomaniac would discount the lessons of the past.
Though, I agree that respect for our fellow man is lacking. It seems that it is only politically correct to apply it in a leftward direction.

Cynthia

Thank you for the article (new reader)

I’m fascinated with how passionate we are about politics. I’m very passionate about certain policies because they affect people and people are what ultimately matter the most. However, politics will never be the answer in and of itself, politicians change their minds constantly. Which is why a certain individual will never be the answer. Politics, politicians, or even entire countries are not the “hope of the Earth”. The “Hope of the Earth” is the global Church of Jesus Christ rising up to do our part and play our role wherever we are. This means using the unique gifts, talents, resources, and opportunities God has given each one of us to advance the Kingdom of God “on Earth as it is in Heaven” (as Jesus himself taught us to pray). If that happened, the Church would have a much better reputation (and as a result so would God/Jesus).
Something that directly concerns me is that Romney is among those who see business success as a sure sign of moral virtue. A virtue that is concerned with rewarding winners and punishing losers. But a democracy cannot lay off its failing citizens. It cannot be content to leave any of its citizens behind—and certainly not the forty-seven per cent whom Romney wishes to fire from the polity.
A two-term Obama Administration will leave an enduringly positive imprint on political life. It will bolster the ideal of good governance and a social vision that tempers individualism with a concern for community. Every Presidential election involves a contest over the idea of America. Obama’s America—one that progresses toward social justice, tolerance, and equality—represents the future that this country deserves.

zachneese

Hi, Cynthia, thanks for reading and responding. I share your concerns about Romney. I smell a weasel. But then, politicians are in the business of courting the favor of Man, and in that regard Obama has weasel in his gene pool, too. You’re right, politics are not the answer, and we are seeing the truth of that more and more clearly as the time approaches. Government is also not the answer, and we cannot help but fail if we rest our hopes upon it.
I think that the term “social justice” is a misnomer. If we really had social justice, everyone would get exactly what he or she deserves. You put yourself in a bad financial position – too bad. Justice says live on the wages of your mistakes. You don’t work you don’t eat. That’s social justice.
I don’t think the Bible teaches social justice at all. I think the Bible teaches charity and mercy, which are better. THAT we need more of on both sides of the isle.
Tolerance is important. But tolerance doesn’t mean all truths are equally true. That is a social deconstruction. Tolerance means I love people even though I don’t agree with them – even though I sometimes deplore their behavior or philosophies. And THAT, we need more of on both sides of the isle.
And equality…well, God says He is no respecter of persons. That is was a biblical concept before it was ever an American concept. I couldn’t agree more. And wouldn’t that make our political discourse a little more civil and less abusive.
Thank you for writing, Cynthia. I appreciate your perspective.

Cindy Bennett

Tell it like it is Zach. I am Natalie Carpenter’s mom. You recently officiated her wedding! I am glad to have you on my “friend” list. You are right on. 3 more days (I hope!) and we will find out what our country has decided. But either way, I have a Faithful God whose will is much better than my own. I am grateful that this is in His hands and not mine! Keep up the good fight.

Angela Hamilton

We have a Muslim in there now, I’m thinking that’s worse than a Morman any day!!!!

Sarah Hall

Totally awesome blog, I agree.

Brady Blackmon

Angela Hamilton’s comment is utterly hateful. That in a nutshell is my point. Such hate!! Why is he a Muslim, because of his African heritage? Cruel!!

Merredith

My heart is broken over the state of the church and our nation. My disappointment resides in the fact that the church has become a catalyst in further dividing our country instead of being the shining light to bring us together. I do not really understand all of the big words and politcal language, but I do understand what it means to love. I love our President because he is a man for the people. I cannot for the life of me understand all of the hatred, anger, and division. Our President has stated publicly that he is a Christian, believes in the biblical definition of marriage, and is personally against abortion. However, as the leader of the free world, he supports their RIGHTS and will not withhold their basic inalienable rights. The LORD created us with a free will and we, as humans, will and do choose to do things against the will of God for our lives. This President has endured racist comments, slander, the questioning of his citizenship, and laughably the antichrist. I cannot ever remember a time in my life where I have ever encountered such a profound disrespect for a President or the Office of the Presidency. The things that I see going on in the world, I dare not teach my children to model, but I teach them the biblical definition of being a conduit of love, grace, and mercy even toward people who do not share our beliefs, values, or race. The things that our state, local, and federal “leaders” are saying is despicable because their words are informing the next generation to rebel against authority. The bible teaches us to respect and pray for our leaders and I cannot honestly say that I believe people are praying the right way for our President or our national leaders. People are so judgmental, hypocritical, and using irresponsible words to support their opinions. The LORD has revealed things to me regarding this President and I believe GOD over what man does or says. God can use anyone or anything for his purpose so why is it so hard to believe that the Lord can use President Obama for his will? I do not agree with all of our President’s policies, however I do see that some of them are helping disadvantaged people nationally. At least he is trying to level the playing field for ALL people and not just wealthy people. I am also a recipient of his policies because I am currently in college and the pell grants help me finance my education. On the other hand, Mitt Romney dismissed me as one of the 47% who refuses to take responsibility and care for my life. At any rate, I just hope people will return to the Lord, search their hearts, stop judging one another and actively participate in allowing the Holy Spirit to transform their hearts. Blessings!

zachneese

I hear what you are saying, Meredith. And I would never dare to judge the President’s heart. I seriously pray for him and I do agree that God can and has “used” him. But I also have to hold my elected officials accountable to the truth. And more importantly, we have to hold each other, as voting Christians, accountable to our choices and how they compare to the Word. There is a vast difference between giving people their constitutional rights, which a president should defend, and legislating and protecting outright depravity. We all have the right to sin, that is certain, but there are consequences. But does government have the right to make sin a protected status? Now, as for the people, of course we love them. So did Jesus. So does Jesus. But He would not have been a “friend of sinners” if He had endorsed their sin and permitted them to go to hell while he sat and smiled.

Dana Miller

Zach, I should have know that if you could write a song so moving as Love Has Done It, you could & would dig deep into God’s word – and in to your heart – to expand on what is really going on in this nation. I am not well versed in politics OR in every book and chapter of the Bible. I am a believer and a follower of Jesus and I thirst to know more of God’s word. Your comparison of biblical kings vs modern day kings is the most profound analysis of our current administration I’ve heard yet. All I can say is, while I may not have been able to articulate it completely thus far, my heart has been broken over the past four years – watching our country drift farther and farther away from God’s perfect plan for mankind. I have a healthy fear of God – which means I respect Him. He will have His way. I too am losing all faith in government. I pray for Obama as well, but I cannot and will not support someone who – as you so eloquently said it – put one hand on the bible and give God the finger with the other. God either is or He isn’t. Choose the opposition of the world rather than offend Jesus. Thank you, brother, for weighing in on this subject. Iron sharpens iron, and that is exactly what you did for me here.

Carolyn Kozak

Thank you for your well-reasoned responses that display the heart of Jesus. I am proud to be associated with you, and our church, and so grateful for your honesty, sincerity, and humility. The world needs the truth, and people who aren’t afraid to own up to it. Otherwise, they will never trust our Jesus.

Kimberly Dickson

So, this is awesome.

Brady Blackmon

I see thst you dont post opposing views..so pharisiacal…so cowardly

zachneese

I’ve been busy. I work weekends. I didn’t print your other response because it was an unrelated rant. If you want to rant, get your own website. And remember this, everyone’s opinion is equally valuable, until you compare them to God’s.

John Cannata

Zach thanks for your insights on this matter. It takes courage to speak the truth in love and declare the infallible word of God. It saddens me to hear some of the responses yet I choose to respect how others feel. The bottom line is Jesus loves us more than we could possibly understand. Far beyond what we could even imagine.
The reason His heart breaks when we disobey His word is that it disconnects us from walking in His best here on earth and breaks the heart of the Father. My prayer would be that we would come to know the great dimensions of the love of God and the eyes of our hearts be opened.
God’s best and highest be yours in abundance!

Molly Gilmore

Hi, Zach,
I believe that God has given you biblical wisdom concerning this election. Although we don’t have the choice of a confessing Christian to vote for, we do have, as I see it so far, a choice between opportunity and oppression. Christians are being given a small chance to change how things are done in this country. There is too much reliance on government. Government has become the god and father of the people, when God Almighty and our Heavenly Father is supposed to be our help in time of need. God uses people, His people, to help and encourage others. However, many of God’s people have chosen instead to keep everything to themselves, not releasing what is in their hand in order to help others, and leaving the way open for the government to take over their job as well as the lives of those who are needy. The more that someone receives from the government, the more the government demands control.
If people will read the Old Testament, there are many gory and heinous stories. Parts of it are wild and sinful. I am still amazed, after all the terrible things that King David did, that God called him a ‘man after His own heart’! How could He? God is forgiving and merciful when He sees true repentance. Today, now, this election, God is looking for true repentance from His people and His nation. Not only do we need to learn from our mistakes, but also from the mistakes of those who lived before us. As you said, that is why their lives have been recorded in the Bible.
The angels are indeed watching. They watch us all the time. The angels would rather bring God’s blessing to us instead of God’s wrath to us. But they must follow His commands. And so must we!
Blessings, Molly

Yenni

Thank you. Read both part 1 and 2. Made me decide how to vote. : )

zachneese

Thank you for reading and thinking and praying, Yenni.

Boyd

Zach your article was really thoughtful and God inspired. Thank you. The truth is always right. God is the only way out of this mess we are in, but we have to deal with politicians now. The church staying out of politics has lead us to where we are politically. I believe we must pray and ask God how we should vote. It also is helpful to read the platforms of both political parties. To not read and understand is to vote without knowing what direction each party is leaning toward. If you cannot endorse what the political party’s platform is it may be harder to endorse their candidate. It is also important to really know how the candidates have performed on the job and not listen to one candidate’s views of the other candidate without checking the facts. Thanks for taking a Biblical view of this election. It will be a world changing situation. Will God’s people listen to Him or not. God bless you and your family.

zachneese

Thank you, Boyd. I totally agree.

vicki777

I keep hearing we need to repent as a nation. To be able to do that each one of us need to repent individually and become the disciple we are suppose to be.

zachneese

Vicki, that’s exactly right. Communities are made up of individuals. Daniel even repented ON BEHALF of his nation, though he himself had not committed any of the sins he was repenting for. He identified himself with their sin in order to intercede before God for his people.

VeronicaG

Zach, I admire your righteous stand–we’ve let scripture become too watered down. If God calls something an abomination, it’s abhorent to Him and it should be to us, as well. We need to be discerning in light of scripture, not adhere to certain beliefs because of the culture we live in. I mourn today for America!

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